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		<description><![CDATA[呵呵，是的，我知道原新闻的标题是这样子的：FeedSky与广告公司腾信互动合并。但以这两个组织的实力而言，就像说当年QQ和Foxmail合并一样，有些YY。 很多饭店都有所谓的“招牌菜”，但很多饭店利润率最大的菜却并非他们的招牌菜，事实上，这些招牌菜还经常打折。饭店利润率最大的，可能是任何一个饭店都能提供的啤酒和饮料。故而，招牌菜对于饭店而言，只是为了卖饮料获得更大利润的一个工具罢了。如果非要在招牌菜上赚钱，恐怕人流都没了。 这就是周末我和webleon说的观点：rss托管，只是feedsky的招牌菜，而且，这道招牌菜是免费的。提供rss托管，只是feedsky招揽人流的重要工具，至于feedsky怎么赚钱，别去从rss托管上想主意。 feedsky的rss托管，只是一种工具罢了。在这片土地上，做工具，特别是面向大众的工具，是很难赚钱的，因为只要有人一个免费，你就完蛋了。所以金山搞wps搞到最后只好去搞网游，为什么？因为office是免费的（事实上是免费的）。 在中国做网络工具做到最后赚大钱的是QQ。不过，有必要洞悉这样一点，qq的招牌是什么？网络聊天嘛，所以它被归为“IM工具”（即时通讯工具）。但如果qq想在即时通讯上赚钱，昏，原来聊天还要付钱么？它早就完蛋了。 另外一个做工具做得很赚钱的是百度（不过最近它有点烦），不过搜索本身也赚不了钱，百度是充分利用搜索结果页的媒体属性来赚钱：广告。还是那句话：招牌菜是免费的。 Feedsky一度想利用托管后的rss输出来赚钱：rss输出页面中含有广告链接。但这个逻辑其实是很不靠谱的，因为广告商很难明白这些大大小小的rss输出后形成的受众群究竟是群什么样的人。当feedsky无法清晰地表述出它的产品的特征时（是的，受众群才是产品，不是rss种子），这门生意很难成立。 我周末和webleon说，feedsky其实积聚了大量的IT圈子里的用户，少说是百万当量级的。考虑到像我这样每天都要去看看我的rss订阅用户是从哪个浏览器过来的heavey user并不多，就算它个10%吧，它也有6位数当量级的活跃用户。有这个用户底子，我笑言他们要做个5gsns之类的IT圈SNS，会比5GSNS更火爆一些。 所以，小结一下，feedsky最重要的价值就在于，经过这几年的积累，它手上有一批对互联网比较了解对web2.0或者叫互动有些概念的用户群。这群人的特征是&#8230;&#8230;（吧啦吧啦，吕欣欣描述得比我好，我就不罗嗦了）。 现在来看看腾信互动，据说是中国最牛的互动广告代理公司之一。这是一家做网络游戏代理起家的互动公司，并不隶属于现在的任何一个大牛集团（对比一下分众的创世奇迹），不过06年接受过日本很有名的网络广告代理公司Transcomos的投资（具体金额不详）。换句话说，基本上，feedsky以一大票IT类用户为本钱，收编于一家专营网络广告的互动公司，蛮符合逻辑的。 所以，我并不完全同意siwom的观点：feedsky被彻底的资源化和媒体化了。因为我同意“资源化”的说法，但不同意“媒体化”的说法，feedsky的rss托管服务将成为一个招牌工具而存在。也正因为它被并购（或者叫上岸），才使得它能够继续工具化下去。不然，在这个寒冷的冬天，独立的工具，是会倒在黎明到来之前的。而对于一家互动性的广告公司而言，做一个媒体，并不是它的兴趣所在。 吕欣欣一如既往地扯了一句淡：“FeedSky合并对互联网Web2.0具有行业意义”。请注意我这里用的“扯淡”二字，到底这两个字是啥子意思，请狠狠点击这里。 P.S.，我个人是蛮庆幸feedsky终于被买走了，在一段时期内，我blog右侧那个还算令我满意的rss读者数字看来不会消失。我这个blog和我读者之间的连通，对feedsky的依赖实在太高，高到我已经投鼠忌器，不敢不使用feedsky的服务了。 附，腾信的业务结构图，供有兴趣的人把玩参考，资料来源于腾信公开文档： Copyleft &#169; 2010 知识共享署名-非商业性使用-禁止演绎 注意：转载勿改标题！ItTalks -- 魏武挥的Blog (digitalfingerprint:fc4f8fc31f70097eea4b780b13146415) 欢迎 浏览我收集的信息图 关注我的微博 访问我的分享 与本日志可能相关的文章有：RSS浏览器的困境：媒体 or 工具？ (20)自频道的一些说明 (23)自频道 (47)推荐一个Feed烧制 (26)FeedSky和愚人节 (0)FeedBurner貌似解禁？ (3)新媒体启示录之九：RSS (9)没有FeedBurner的日子 (10)RSS阅读：前景何在？ (13)<table class="wumii-related-items" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" border="0"  style="clear: both;">
    
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>呵呵，是的，我知道原新闻的标题是这样子的：<a href="http://tech.sina.com.cn/i/2008-11-20/14202592578.shtml" target="_blank">FeedSky与广告公司腾信互动合并</a>。但以这两个组织的实力而言，就像说当年QQ和Foxmail合并一样，有些YY。</p>
<p>很多饭店都有所谓的“招牌菜”，但很多饭店利润率最大的菜却并非他们的招牌菜，事实上，这些招牌菜还经常打折。饭店利润率最大的，可能是任何一个饭店都能提供的啤酒和饮料。故而，招牌菜对于饭店而言，只是为了卖饮料获得更大利润的一个工具罢了。如果非要在招牌菜上赚钱，恐怕人流都没了。</p>
<p>这就是周末我和<a href="http://webleon.org/" target="_blank">webleon</a>说的观点：rss托管，只是feedsky的招牌菜，而且，这道招牌菜是免费的。提供rss托管，只是feedsky招揽人流的重要工具，至于feedsky怎么赚钱，别去从rss托管上想主意。</p>
<p>feedsky的rss托管，只是一种工具罢了。在这片土地上，做工具，特别是面向大众的工具，是很难赚钱的，因为只要有人一个免费，你就完蛋了。所以金山搞wps搞到最后只好去搞网游，为什么？因为office是免费的（事实上是免费的）。</p>
<p>在中国做网络工具做到最后赚大钱的是QQ。不过，有必要洞悉这样一点，qq的招牌是什么？网络聊天嘛，所以它被归为“IM工具”（即时通讯工具）。但如果qq想在即时通讯上赚钱，昏，原来聊天还要付钱么？它早就完蛋了。</p>
<p>另外一个做工具做得很赚钱的是百度（不过最近它有点烦），不过搜索本身也赚不了钱，百度是充分利用搜索结果页的媒体属性来赚钱：广告。还是那句话：招牌菜是免费的。</p>
<p>Feedsky一度想利用托管后的rss输出来赚钱：rss输出页面中含有广告链接。但这个逻辑其实是很不靠谱的，因为广告商很难明白这些大大小小的rss输出后形成的受众群究竟是群什么样的人。当feedsky无法清晰地表述出它的产品的特征时（是的，受众群才是产品，不是rss种子），这门生意很难成立。</p>
<p>我周末和webleon说，feedsky其实积聚了大量的IT圈子里的用户，少说是百万当量级的。考虑到像我这样每天都要去看看我的rss订阅用户是从哪个浏览器过来的heavey user并不多，就算它个10%吧，它也有6位数当量级的活跃用户。有这个用户底子，我笑言他们要做个5gsns之类的IT圈SNS，会比5GSNS更火爆一些。</p>
<p>所以，小结一下，feedsky最重要的价值就在于，经过这几年的积累，它手上有一批对互联网比较了解对web2.0或者叫互动有些概念的用户群。这群人的特征是&#8230;&#8230;（吧啦吧啦，吕欣欣描述得比我好，我就不罗嗦了）。</p>
<p>现在来看看腾信互动，据说是中国最牛的互动广告代理公司之一。这是一家做网络游戏代理起家的互动公司，并不隶属于现在的任何一个大牛集团（对比一下分众的创世奇迹），不过06年接受过日本很有名的网络广告代理公司Transcomos的投资（具体金额不详）。换句话说，基本上，feedsky以一大票IT类用户为本钱，收编于一家专营网络广告的互动公司，蛮符合逻辑的。</p>
<p>所以，我并不完全同意siwom的观点：<a href="http://www.siwom.com/69.html" target="_blank">feedsky被彻底的资源化和媒体化了</a>。因为我同意“资源化”的说法，但不同意“媒体化”的说法，feedsky的rss托管服务将成为一个招牌工具而存在。也正因为它被并购（或者叫上岸），才使得它能够继续工具化下去。不然，在这个寒冷的冬天，独立的工具，是会倒在黎明到来之前的。而对于一家互动性的广告公司而言，做一个媒体，并不是它的兴趣所在。</p>
<p>吕欣欣一如既往地扯了一句淡：“FeedSky合并对互联网Web2.0具有行业意义”。请注意我这里用的“扯淡”二字，到底这两个字是啥子意思，请狠狠点击<a href="http://weiwuhui.com/761.html" target="_blank">这里</a>。</p>
<p>P.S.，我个人是蛮庆幸feedsky终于被买走了，在一段时期内，我blog右侧那个还算令我满意的rss读者数字看来不会消失。我这个blog和我读者之间的连通，对feedsky的依赖实在太高，高到我已经投鼠忌器，不敢不使用feedsky的服务了。</p>
<p>附，腾信的业务结构图，供有兴趣的人把玩参考，资料来源于腾信公开文档：</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>魏武挥</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[FeedSky今天有点发疯： 这张图片截图于BlogBus正在酝酿、测试的内容频道侧栏。有10个RSS订阅数我都会笑死，何况这种几万当量级的。 在我的RSS浏览器中，我看到很多Blogger都提到了今天（4月1日）的FeedSky的“发神经”，数字飙涨。比如蓝皮，那可是十几万的订阅量。 FeedSky官网上有这样一则通告： 换句话说，本质上，FeedSky的服务出了点问题。大家都是做网站的，这种事情再正常不过。但关键在于，FeedSky“忽悠”了大家一把。 4月1日，本着愚人节的精神，这种“忽悠”看上去也没什么。但有一点吕欣欣忘记了，这个数字，恰恰是很多用户愿意使用FeedSky烧烤过的种子，而不是Blog自带的rss的重要原因。道理很简单：我想知道有多少人在订阅我的blog。 我个人认为，愚人节开玩笑不算什么，服务器出了点问题也不算什么。但以愚人节为借口，拿着这个至关重要的数字开玩笑，未免玩笑有点过火了。 这就好比Blogbus一大早发布一条新闻：自即日起，BlogBus不再提供Blog服务一样。有趣归有趣，未免把自己的服务太当不回事了。 事实上，蓝皮日志里提到的那个图片， 这句话，我一点没感到幽默。 Copyleft &#169; 2010 知识共享署名-非商业性使用-禁止演绎 注意：转载勿改标题！ItTalks -- 魏武挥的Blog (digitalfingerprint:fc4f8fc31f70097eea4b780b13146415) 欢迎 浏览我收集的信息图 关注我的微博 访问我的分享 与本日志可能相关的文章有：腾信互动并购Feedsky (35)<table class="wumii-related-items" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" border="0"  style="clear: both;">
    
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FeedSky今天有点发疯：</p>
<p><a href="http://weiwuhui.blogbus.com/files/20080402004047.jpeg" rel="lightbox[561]"><img style="border: 0px none " src="http://weiwuhui.blogbus.com/files/20080402004048.jpeg" border="0" alt="feedsky" width="212" height="244" /></a></p>
<p>这张图片截图于BlogBus正在酝酿、测试的内容频道侧栏。有10个RSS订阅数我都会笑死，何况这种几万当量级的。</p>
<p>在我的RSS浏览器中，我看到很多Blogger都提到了今天（4月1日）的FeedSky的“发神经”，数字飙涨。比如<a href="http://lanpicn.blogbus.com/logs/18048339.html" target="_blank">蓝皮</a>，那可是十几万的订阅量。</p>
<p>FeedSky官网上有这样一则通告：</p>
<p><a href="http://weiwuhui.blogbus.com/files/20080402004050.png" rel="lightbox[561]"><img style="border: 0px none " src="http://weiwuhui.blogbus.com/files/20080402004051.png" border="0" alt="Feedsky" width="328" height="124" /></a></p>
<p>换句话说，本质上，FeedSky的服务出了点问题。大家都是做网站的，这种事情再正常不过。但关键在于，FeedSky“忽悠”了大家一把。</p>
<p>4月1日，本着愚人节的精神，这种“忽悠”看上去也没什么。但有一点吕欣欣忘记了，这个数字，恰恰是很多用户愿意使用FeedSky烧烤过的种子，而不是Blog自带的rss的重要原因。道理很简单：我想知道有多少人在订阅我的blog。</p>
<p>我个人认为，愚人节开玩笑不算什么，服务器出了点问题也不算什么。但以愚人节为借口，拿着这个至关重要的数字开玩笑，未免玩笑有点过火了。</p>
<p>这就好比Blogbus一大早发布一条新闻：自即日起，BlogBus不再提供Blog服务一样。有趣归有趣，未免把自己的服务太当不回事了。</p>
<p>事实上，蓝皮日志里提到的那个图片，</p>
<p><img src="http://weiwuhui.blogbus.com/files/12070681890.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></p>
<p>这句话，我一点没感到幽默。</p>
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